The Friend-zone Shit Test

In many of your interactions with women, watch out for this interesting but all-too-common shit test.

Let us say you are seducing some woman and it is going well, and she is clearly intrigued by you.  She finds you desirable.  But maybe your game is not absolutely perfect and she is somewhat hesitant and is not being too physical with you.  And let us say you make some moves and she acts a bit annoyed, as if you being a hot-blooded man is somehow a bad thing.

And you understand the situation and don’t annoy her to the point of putting her off.  You tease her, continue to make your moves, and when it doesn’t seem to be going further and is petering off, you end the interaction.

Now in such a situation, she might later say (or text you on phone) something like this:

“Hey, it was a fun night.  I really like you but can we just be friends?”

Most men would consider this a failure of their seduction attempt and will likely regard it as friend-zoning.  Many men will say “OK” and continue their seduction in later interactions.  Many will resentfully stop interacting with her.  And a few will try to convince her that you “deserve” more than the friend-zoning.

None of these is likely to work.  All these are you playing by her rules.

What is likely to work, nay, almost guaranteed to work, however, is this kind of a response:

“Uhh.  That won’t work for me.  I don’t do friendships with women that I find desirable.”

This is going to get her hamster spinning.  Does she want to be “undesirable” for you?  Does she want to cut ties with someone who finds her desirable and is unapologetic about it?  Does she want to end the interaction at a sour note with someone that she has enjoyed interacting with?

This was a shit test.   She was testing whether you are weak and whether you will accept her terms.

If you back down and negate your own desires, there is no chance that she will fulfill those desires.  You will then merely waste your time with her in future interactions as she tells you about her career troubles and her love interests.

If you proudly and with clear self-awareness, and with honesty, tell her that friend-zoning is not your thing, that shows her that you are not going to be a beta chump for her.  She can move on, or give herself to you.

In our experience, it is almost certain that she will accept your dominance.  That is what she was testing for, anyway.

Try it next time something like this happens.  You will be surprised how she would want to make up to you for her transgression of suggesting such a dumb idea.

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Maxims, continued…

An earlier anthology.

(The following list is from a comment on Chateau Heartiste)

Maxims

Maxim #1a: Women desire men of better quality than themselves.

Maxim #2: Women are turned on by displays of male power.

Maxim #3: Whenever an attractive girl tells you she hates assholes, or describes her experience in the past dating assholes and claims to avoid them now, or recites a laundry list of asshole-y things guys do that she disapproves of, you can bet your weight in gold bricks that she wants you to be an asshole to her.

Maxim #4: Never trust a woman who is missing a sense of humor.

Maxim #6: Never. Make. It. Easy. For. A. Woman.

Maxim #7: Your girl will thank you for your steadfast devotion to your belief in yourself.

Maxim #8: Always assume she is a slut. It helps kick the legs out from under the pedestal you will be tempted to put her on, and it is more often than not true.

Maxim #9: The greater the age difference between the older man and the younger woman, the tighter his game will need to be, barring compensatory attributes (money).

Maxim #10: Marriage is a social mechanism designed to exchange sex for indentured servitude.

Maxim #11: Calling a girl out on her lie accomplishes nothing.

Maxim #12: When the love is gone, women can be as cold as if they had never known you.

Maxim #13: When in doubt, game.

Maxim #14: Female cultural equality = male dating inequality. Female cultural inequality = male dating equality. Human nature says that you can‘t have it both ways.

Maxim #15: Be narcissistic. There is no greater divergence than that between a woman’s stated disapproval of male narcissism and the rapidity with which she jumps into bed with a male narcissist.

Maxim #16: The two fundamental propositions are male choosiness and female abundance. All alpha males have these two mindsets in common. Corollary: Male choosiness and female abundance do not necessarily have to be true for the strategy of behaving as if they are true to be effective at seduction.

Maxim #17: The alpha male thinks and acts more like a woman than a man in matters of seduction. He understands his adversary’s psychology, and uses it to allay her defenses.

Maxim #18: Never talk about getting into a relationship even if she says that’s what she’s looking for.

Maxim #19: Withholding sex is the tactic of a woman who has already lost. It is mutually assured destruction.

Maxim #20: If a woman says the word “sex” in conversation with you or about you, no matter the context, it means she’s thinking about having sex with you.

Maxim #21: Women are more pliable in the company of competing women.

Maxim #22: You have to make marriage an attractive alternative for MEN — not women — if you want the institution to thrive.

Maxim #23: The vagina tingle is the principal moral code to which women subscribe. All other moral considerations are secondary.

Maxim #24: When in doubt, ask yourself “WWJD?” What Would a Jerk Do? Then do that.

Maxim #25: NO girl wants to be thought she isn’t a special little snowflake.

Maxim #26: Never tell a girl how much you make, even if you’re loaded. In case of marriage, keep separate accounts.

Maxim #27: If you want a wife, stay clear of investing much in girls who constantly remind you they like to have “fun, fun, fun” and “get bored easily”.

Maxim #28: The more experience you have with women, the more you’ll know which women have experience with men: It is the inexperienced beta male who is most often in the dark about a woman’s sexual history and liable to be victimized by it.

Maxim #29: Xenophobia is good for diversity.

Maxim #30: Women will not hold it against you for trying to get into their panties on the first night. In fact, they will respect you more for your boldness and willingness to follow your manly desires.

Maxim #31: If you plan on cheating and subsequently get caught, act like a total dick who did nothing wrong. Your girlfriend will then wonder if it’s something she did.

Maxim #32: Commanding women to do your bidding will give you a bigger beta margin of error when needed.

Maxim #33: Women need to test men for their grace under pressure.

Maxim #34: If she’s hot, why would she bother with online dating?

Maxim #35: Never trust a woman’s advice on how to please women. Her advice is designed for alpha men she already finds attractive and from whom she seeks signals of attainability and commitment.

Maxim #36: A woman’s sex and relationship advice isn’t meant to help men; it’s meant to distract men from what really works to attract women.

Maxim #37: High IQ is no inoculation against beta delusion. If anything, high IQ obstructs clear thinking about women’s nature.

Maxim #38: The longer you are away from seducing new women, the harder it will be to seduce one when you want.

Maxim #39: The worst thing to happen to women in America was women’s suffrage.

Maxim #40: Men are becoming ever bigger betas in their dealings with women. Men are losing the leverage to shape and push women’s child-like and selfishly amoral political opinions in logical, just and long-term oriented directions.

Maxim #41: The definition of Inner Game: Hit on every woman who excites you. Make life uncomfortable for them, not yourself.

Maxim # 42: When a girl signals that she doesn’t enjoy blowjobs or sex, do not spend one second more with her. Your libido is too important to gamble on such a girl.

Maxim #43: In their sexual primes women’s attraction for assholes is at its strongest. You can catch a lot of hungry flies with honey, but shit attracts the most well-fed flies.

Maxim #44: If you get sexually rejected, don’t admit it to yourself, and especially don’t admit it to the girl.

Maxim #45: Women will screech louder the closer your words get to damaging or exposing vulnerabilities in their sexual market value.

Maxim #46: Whenever you hear or read the words “gender”, “gendered”, “gendered norm”, “subtle gender bias”, or “increasingly egalitarian, yet there remains…” know that you are dealing with a leftwing moonbat, blank-slate believing fruitcake who cannot deal with the fact that men and women are biologically different from birth.

Maxim #47: Awareness of a woman’s games is a precision-guided weapon in a man’s arsenal of seduction.

Maxim #48: Respect the momentum.

Maxim #49: The rare older woman-younger man pairing is like a lab experiment gone wrong. It violates the natural order of things, and leaves its practitioners emotionally twisted and in a constant mental race to hyper-rationalize their sub-par mate choice.

Maxim #50: Marriage is no escape from the sexual market and the possibility that you may be outbid by a competitor with higher value.

Maxim #51: For most women, five minutes of alpha is worth five years of beta.

Maxim #52: Underneath the veneer of civilized discourse we act in ways that are brazenly self-interested in the short term.

Maxim #53: All kneel before the god of biomechanics, by sword or by surrender.

Maxim #54: When a woman has incentive to lie, she will choose lying over honesty EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Maxim #55: Run for your Life Shit Tests:
BEWARE the classic gun-to-the-head marriage pressure administered by your typical non-descript, rudderless late 20’s/early 30’s woman.
When a woman pressures you mercilessly to marry her, bullying to the point of threatening a break up – this is the shit test of ALL shit tests. Treat it as such – If you fail this shit test, you are RUINED. FOR. LIFE.

Maxim #60: Waving a roll of benjamins at a woman will not give her tingles. In fact, it will often do the opposite.

Maxim #73: When a girl emphatically insists she is so over you, she’s never been more into you.

Maxim #21: Betas pay, alphas split, super alphas profit.

Maxim #39: A woman’s standards are like a house of cards: kick out one from the bottom and the whole edifice crashes down.

Maxim #85: As women’s bodies age and weaken, their rationalization hamsters grow bigger and stronger. Eventually, the hamster is powerful enough to take control of all higher order consciousness.

Maxim #87: The more expensive or thoughtful the gift you give a girl, the greater the risk that she will subconsciously begin to think she is too good for you.

Corollary to Maxim #87: If you are dating out of your league, or you are dating a young hot babe in her prime, you should do the exact opposite of what everyone will tell you to do — *don’t* buy her expensive gifts. Be particularly wary of advice from women. No woman in the world is capable of thinking clearly or impartially on the matter of “acceptable” levels of male provisioning. Even old, fat hausfrau hogs will expect mountains of jewels in offerings from men.

Maxim #105: Where there’s incentive, there are lies.

Maxim #109: Consensual polyamory is a contrived hookup service for undesirable sexual market rejects.

Maxim #198: Use of the word “disenfranchised” or other similar nomenclature of deconstructivist post-modern pablum automatically discredits an argument for serious consideration.

Maxim #200: Chicks dig guys willing to risk an early, gruesome death. Expendability is a DHV.

Twelve kinds of girls to avoid on Shaadi.com

Shaadi.com is the most popular matrimonial website in India.  Compared to a newspaper matrimonial, it offers clear advantages.  You can see photos of the other person, you can see more details about them, and you can communicate and chat with them.

In India, dating websites have not been very popular but they are gaining currency now.  Apps like Tinder are used by some folks but many girls are afraid that someone they know might come across their profile on such short-term dating platforms.

We understand.

Shaadi.com is supposedly to find your future husband or wife, but there are many – both men and women – who are on this website with no intention of getting married.  If you wish to date a woman, it is quite OK to create a profile on this website and treat it as a way to meet women.  If you find a real gem, you may want to consider a steady relationship with her.

But most women on Shaadi.com are quite weird and unfit for a relationship.  If you are just wanting to gain experience with different kinds of women, by all means go ahead.

The only cautionary note is to preserve all your communications and watch out for any indications that the woman is somehow too eager to get physical with you before even having met you.  It has happened that a woman on shaadi.com is just wanting to trap or blackmail you by accusing you of rape etc.

You obviously should read tips on how to create a good profile and how to build attraction via chatting and texting.  We will cover that aspect in another post.

But in this post, we offer some tips on which women to avoid if you are serious about finding a good girlfriend or wife.

  1. The very brief profile.  Don’t bother.  If she is not willing to put in some effort at writing about herself, she thinks of herself as a princess who has nothing to offer but is wanting to evaluate men falling over herself.
  2. The no photo.  She is ugly.  Having a password-protected photo or a photo visible on accept is OK, though.  Trust us, if she looked good, she would have a photo up there.
  3. The “u2”, “l8r”, “txt” and “wid” kind.  She is into too much texting and is an attention whore.  If a girl can’t bother to write a proper English sentence describing herself, don’t expect much from her.
  4. The “profile created by parents”.  If you want to marry someone with a good background, this may be OK.  But don’t expect to date this woman.  Be prepared to talk to her family and be humiliated when they ask you about your salary and prospects.
  5. The “no time wasters please”.  She has dated enough and now wants to trap a beta schlub.  And she is impatient to get hitched.  Be very cautious.  What she wants is for you to not evaluate or date her but just quickly agree to marrying her.
  6. The single moms.  You don’t want to be the one bringing up another man’s babies.  They are however, fine for dating.  But if there is even a hint that they have used some law against their ex-husbands, stay away.  They might trap you in a rape case “on the promise or marriage”.
  7. The “never married” post-wall women.  If she is 32+ and has never been married, rest assured that she has been through some relationships which didn’t work out.  She comes with emotional baggage.
  8. The “fatty face photos only” profile.  If she calls her body-type average but there is no fully-length photograph, she is most likely overweight or obese.  Don’t waste your time because when you finally meet her, you will be shocked.

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  9. The “fun-loving”.  She is vacuous.  Has no interest in anything serious, doesn’t read books, has no culinary skills, and gets wasted often.  She is probably good for a fling but NEVER make the mistake of getting emotionally invested in her.  If she is fun-loving, you too have fun.

    A relevant definition of fun-loving from Urban Dictionary:

    “The most ridiculous, pointless, and redundant adjective that has ever existed. More specifically, it’s what a lot of uncreative and ignorant incorrigibles use in their personals ad when they can’t think of something to say that actually has meaning to it. The definition of fun, is something that is a source of enjoyment, amusement, or pleasure. Therefore, the fact that something fun is enjoyable or pleasurable is built-in to the very meaning of the word. Hence, it is completely redundant and illogical to say “fun-loving”. How else is someone going to feel about fun? Fun-hating? The very notion is contradictory at best, and ludicrous at worst.

    Oh my god! I’m such a fun-loving person! What an amazing revelation.”

  10. The “drink in hand” crowd.  She is probably a party-type who stays awake till morning and then sleeps till noon.  Again, maybe OK for short-term flings, but definitely not wife-material.
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  11. The “hand on hip” pose.  This kind of girl watches too much of reality TV and knows all about celebrities and fashion trends.  She is usually insecure and high-maintenance.  Don’t spend a paisa on her but subtly neg her for her to come after you.  Again, not wife-material.  Not by a long shot.
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  12. The “accept me as I am” crowd.  She very likely has a bitchy attitude and has really bad manners.  If someone is good, they don’t have to ask others to accept them.  They are accepted naturally.  This kind of woman doesn’t understand what relationships are: a process of adjustment and empathy.  She probably thinks a relationship is all about her.  More likely, she has been a slut and doesn’t want you to judge.